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The 2019 Dion Fortune Seminar will take place on Saturday 7th September, in Glastonbury Town Hall.
We have a separate thread for this event at http://www.dionfortune.co.uk/forum/the-dion-fortune-seminar where full details and a link to the organisers' website is available.

We welcome comments on all upcoming events and new publications relating to DF and allied areas.
Nova Genista Accepted Answer
Details of this year's Dion Fortune Seminar which will take place on 10th October at the Council Chamber, Glastonbury Town Hall, are now available on this forum at http://www.dionfortune.co.uk/forum/the-dion-fortune-seminar and full details and tickets are available at the organiser's website https://www.companyofavalon.co.uk/the-dion-fortune-seminar
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Wendy Accepted Answer
I have been advised that Dion Fortune’s "Sea Priestess" farm is for sale, 23rd July at auction:
https://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/51546008#OJyVyJwdDXxb6bh0.97

It looks like a lovely house. Any offers, anyone?!

Wendy
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Nova Genista Accepted Answer
Would you believe it? Someone in the last 86 years has ripped out DF's article 'Ceremonial Magic Unveiled' from the only copy of the relevant volume of The Occult Review held by the British Library. Fortunately it is a paper that has been reproduced by several folk on the web - and I suppose it is a tribute to DF that someone should have gone to such lengths to possess a copy of her work!
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Nova Genista Accepted Answer
The organisers of the Glastonbury Occult Conference have announced that the dates of the 2020 Conference are 22nd and 23rd February 2020. They are also offering 'early bird' tickets at a lower price than that for later purchases. There are no details of speakers yet so we do not know if there will be any papers specifically relevant to DF work, but this could be an event to keep an eye on.

https://www.glastonburyoccultconference.com/
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MargaretB Accepted Answer
Someone mentioned to me recently that this year's Dion Fortune Seminar at Glastonbury is on 7th September 2019. 'Eek!' said I (or something to the same effect) for I had it in my diary for the 14th. But it seems it is indeed the 7 September 2019. Those who might have made the same mistake as me take note.

https://www.companyofavalon.co.uk/the-dion-fortune-seminar
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MargaretB Accepted Answer
Whilst not specifically about DF, the Welsh Occult Conference, May 11 2019, at Welshpool looks to have a quite interesting programme.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/welsh-occult-conference-2019-tickets-50418631484
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MargaretB Accepted Answer
I see Paul Weston is giving a talk 'Dion Fortune and Karl Maria Wiligut: War of the Atlantean Magicians' and launching his book 'The Occult Battle of Britain' at the Glastonbury Occult Conference in February 2019.
https://www.glastonburyoccultconference.com/?fbclid=IwAR1Gx0f6eX1eAMN2U6y1ZeGWqwZ5BiEdWkN2-DSmW8lfZgfs-hJhOwcWObo
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MargaretB Accepted Answer
Hello All

In hunting around for sources of the DF definition of magic, I came across two websites that might be of interest to folk who visit this forum.
The first is an index for the Occult Review 1905 to 1948 incorporating the London Forum Sept 1933 to April 1938. Quite a few papers by DF are listed there, along with those of many other folk.
The second webpage has links to electronic copies of the Occult Review and the London Forum (and a link to another index of the papers which folk might find more easily downloadable than that in the first link should they want to keep a copy). Unfortunately the paper with DF's definition appears to be in one of the London Forum volumes that is missing but there could be other things there to interest folk.

http://www.austheos.org.au/indices/OCCREV.HTM

http://www.iapsop.com/archive/materials/occult_review/index.html

I am hoping to get to the British Library to have a look at the papers, but that may not be for some time yet so, in the interim, if anyone knows the title of the paper that has the definition, or has an idea of the relevant year, I would be interested to know.
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Peter Nascien Accepted Answer
Greetings Companions

Of all the definitions of magic - and I believe DF came up with quite a few - this one appeals to me as the best we have so far and I'm not surprised that it's so frequently quoted. It's often at the back of my mind though that I have never seen the original quotation in The London Forum and I don't know of anyone who has! I've attempted unsuccessfully to get a copy of it, and I believe the only way of checking it would be to go to the British Library and request a viewing, which I'm not able to do.

If anyone is able to do this I would be very grateful to them! It would be ironic if after all these years it turns out we're misquoting DF or even that she didn't write it at all......

Peter
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MargaretB Accepted Answer
Hello Eirenaea
Many thanks for your very full and interesting answer. Very useful. Thank you.
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Eirenaea Accepted Answer
Hello Margaret,
I also asked this question a short while ago and was pointed to find the answer in Peter Nascien's article 'The Magic of Dion Fortune'. "Magic is the art of causing changes to take place in consciousness in accordance with will" is from an essay by Charles Seymour quoted by Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki in 'The Forgotten Mage' page 24. Seymour takes the definition from an essay by Dion Fortune in a magazine called 'The London Forum' which was an offshoot of 'The Occult Review'.
I hope this is useful in resolving your query.
Eirenaea
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MargaretB Accepted Answer
I am not entirely sure this is the correct category for this point, but it seemed the nearest, so here we go.
I have been reading Christine Hartley's 'The Western Mystery Tradition' which was first published in 1968 (the edition I have being issued in 1986 by The Aquarian Press). I understand that Hartley was a pupil of Dion Fortune and I was interested to find a definition of magic in the book (page 31) as follows 'According to one who devoted many years to the study of the Western tradition.....he maintains....Magic is the art of causing change to take place in consciousness in accordance with will'.
It struck me that this definition is very close to that usually attributed to DF. If Hartley was a pupil of DF then why did she not use DF's definition or attribute the definition to her (or at least mention why some other person's definition was preferred)?
I appreciate this is rather a trivial point, and it does not really matter who came up with the definition, but it piqued my curiosity and I wondered whether anyone knew who the 'he' mentioned by Hartley was and whether the definition attributed to DF might have grown from the above definition or perhaps been developed by her alongside it at some earlier date.
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Psyche Accepted Answer
The Avalon Group, having been closed for some years to new applicants, is now open.

We are informed that Avalon have closed to online applicants having quickly found that this option is very popular. The group have decided to focus their efforts on supporting applicants who wish to be considered for joining the working group.


Details of how to apply can be found on the Avalon Group's website.

Psyche.
It is not for me to teach the Psychologists their business, however great the need.
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Wendy Accepted Answer
Hi JMG

What a wonderful idea! Thank you so much for mentioning it. It occurs to me that this is exactly the right sort of approach to the Cos Doc - an open, informed discussion where thoughts and ideas can be shared, and where new realisations come to mind. I can imagine Socrates facilitating just such a discussion with his students, sitting in the hot Greek sunshine on the steps to a temple!

Very best wishes to you, Wendy
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Dear JMG, thank you very much for telling us about your blog at http://www.ecosophia.net. I am sure that many Companions will find it of interest and I, for one, will be checking in there.
There does seem to be a notable upsurge in interest in and focus on the Cos Doc at present. It will be very interesting to see what develops.

Nova
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JMG Accepted Answer
On the off chance it's of interest to anyone here, my blog Ecosophia will be hosting a monthly discussion of The Cosmic Doctrine starting in June. For most of the last year we've been going through my book Mystery Teachings from the Living Earth, a chapter at a time; we discussed the last chapter this month; and after an earlier discussion of what comes next, my regular blog readers and I agreed that the Cos. Doc. would make a great theme. The monthly Book Club post goes up on the second Wednesday of each month, so June 13 will be the first post, covering preliminaries before we start working through Chapter 1.

I'm primarily working out of the revised edition, published in 1966, as that's the one I originally studied and I also find the revisions helpful in getting the ideas across, but I'll be referencing both this and the current 1995 edition, so readers can follow along whichever they have. I hope to see some of you take part in the conversation!
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Wendy Accepted Answer
Very good to see this thesis mentioned on the website. I read it a while ago and it really is fascinating. Some of DF's Inner contacts we're already familiar with, but many more are brought to light, and discussed with real understanding. Thank you for the reminder, and I shall read it again!

Wendy
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Peter Nascien Accepted Answer
More good news is that a Doctoral Thesis on Dion Fortune has been brought to our attention: 'Dion Fortune and her Inner Plane Contacts' written by Doctor John Selby. It is a comprehensive description of the many Inner Plane contacts made by Dion Fortune, and it makes fascinating reading.

We have posted an abstract of the thesis in the 'Resources' section of the website. You can access the complete work at: https://ore.exeter.ac.uk/repository/handle/10036/41936

or simply by typing the title into your computer's search engine.
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KatieBelle is inaugurating a Dion Fortune Reading Group in Glastonbury.

The first meeting will take place on April 19th, in the small bar of Becketts at the top of Glastonbury High Street, at 7pm, and the book will be The Demon Lover.

Katie says: (see her recent post in the 'Hello Companions' thread) "...we might be taking a more pragmatic rather than academic approach by taking it out to the land and there's talk of artistic creations and all sorts... seems this is inspiring people and could develop into something rather interesting."

It sounds wonderful!
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The programme for this year's Dion Fortune Seminar looks great, looking forward to it!
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